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I've been a deviant for for 2 years with two different accounts and when viewing works that have asked for critiques. I realize you have to have a premium membership to participate in these critiques. But the main thing I noticed is, not alot of members give them. Sure they get alot of comments, but most of the comments seen are 2 words. Is a critique too hard because it has to have over 100 words? And how can someone take the time out of our busy day to do a 100 word or more critique?
  
  I will admit though, after winning a 3 month membership I was scared to do a critique, I had never gotten one, so I was weary about. So during my 1 month membership, :iconruffian2001: posted a poll and offered to do a critique or two. So she critiqued 2 of my works. She was thoughtful, fair, kind, and honest. And because of her, I figured out how to do one. I don't think I could've done one without mine being done first to give me an example of what to look for and what to do in a critique.  
  
  So I went to do my first critique for a 14 year old photographer. Her photo was great but it needed a few pointers. But when I got to 50 words, I was stuck on what more to write about. So I reviewed the image again and again. I had to think of something because I really wanted to do my first critique. So I started thinking how I would've taken the photo and then I saved the photo and opened it up in my Windows Photo Gallery, my operating system is Windows Vista and on The Photo Gallery you get the option to quick fix the photo. So I tried out the contrast, color temperature, saturation, and more *unsaved of course* and then that totally brightened up my critique, I was able to get more into details and what would be good to try out, since Art is all about having fun and experimenting. Well I she liked my critique, so afterward I wanted to do another critique but had trouble finding another photo that asked for one, so I joined and started watching this photography group :iconphotography-apn: where that really opened up for me to try it out again and see if I could do it.
  
  So I found a wonderful photo by :iconc-hass: so I critiqued it, tried it out on quick fix photo gallery and I loved how the photo had a story and a meaning. It had a few problems with it, such as making you look towards the middle/top of the photo, but the problem that lied there was it was headache to look at due to the angle. But it was a wonderful photo. So I critiqued it then I looked at his profile and realized he was a professional and I was an amateur.
  
  Right then I was terribly intimidated by this fact and wish I could take the critique back, but he replied back to me and liked what I had to say and even quoted what I said. I was really excited. All the sudden I realized, yes, he may be a professional, but he's human too. After all that, that is the feeling I felt.
  
  The reason why I say human, is because sometimes comments seem lifeless. Nothing against them though, we're all for comments and love/hate on our work, but a critique actually felt like I was there talking to them face to face and that makes it easier. Two word comments doesn't feel human. I used to make comments like that only because I didn't want to take the time to really take a look at the photo/picture in front of me. But is that any way to be an artist? To not have time to help another artist? Yes we're all busy, but they put their works that they are proud of and we just put it away for later with no comment.
  
  Same with favorites. We love favorites, but if no comment/critique is being made about our work, why should we be here? This is kind of inspiring to me in a way, because if there is anything I love doing is taking time out my day and doing a few critiques or comments. And not 2 word comments, but detailed comments.

  Are people afraid to comment in case they hurt the artist's feelings or maybe they will argue back? What have some of us become? I was reading this wishlist journal where there is an artist who lets everyone put up their own wishlist linked to their journal. If there was anything I noticed, it was alot of people wishing to socialize, get friends, even snail mail, or e-mail friends. The best way to make those wishes happen is to go out of your way on here and write detailed comments. I wrote a critique for :iconnaturebydesign: and since that critique, I now do alot of critiques and comments for his work, not because there is a problem, but because we became friends over it. His work is wonderful. I love critiquing his work. I have so much fun.
  
  But I just wanted to write on this subject, even if no one reads this. Comments are fun and awesome to get, but all we really want is someone to tell you the truth on the matter.


Piray-Vamp
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mrsfahrenheit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
cool news entry :)
sometimes i try to make long comments (i can't do critiques because i'm no premium member) and i enjoy it very much.

i'd love you to visit my gallery and write your opinion on some of my photos because i rarely receive "true" comments. :)
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you!
I understand the critique issue! I used to be like that for quite a while. I enjoy doing it very much!

Sure! I'll definitely check out your works. Anything you want me to really take a look at? :D
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mrsfahrenheit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
nothing special except maybe "cloudy" (thanks for the fav! :hug:)
just pick something that catches your eye :)
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
ok. let me look around in your gallery. :D :icongwompplz:
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kkart Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Professional Photographer
hey thanks a lot for this and the props on :iconphotography-apn:
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
you're welcome! :) I'm glad I can be of help. :D
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MmichelleeJ Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Professional Photographer
Every now and again I go on critique binges, they can be a lot of fun to write! Unfortunately, I have only ever received one critique and it was from a hater :(
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
They are alot of fun to write.

Oh that sucks....:(
Well what photo was it? I'll give an opinion on the matter. I like to critique. :)
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MmichelleeJ Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Professional Photographer
I actually don't even remember which photograph it was on, but I went to the guys page and saw that he was hating on a lot of people.
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
That sucks, oh well, I guess people are like that.
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MmichelleeJ Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Professional Photographer
Unfortunately, but oh well! :)
I am happy with me work, doesn't really matter to me what negative people have to say about it :D
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
:)
That's good. It's nice to know you're positive about it! :D
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SaraSchool Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
I'm pretty sure that giving and getting critique is the only reason why I would actually want a sub! I LOVELOVELOVE giving and receiving critique, and I feel like I am much more likely to receive critique if I specifically ask for it, and my critiques are more likely to be taken seriously by someone who actually asks for it as well. As long as you are a strong enough person to take negative feedback in stride, critiques will help you grow as an artist.
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Elyndra Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2009   Traditional Artist
My problem usually is that I don’t really have anything to say. I’m not a very good artist myself, so what could I tell people who are far better than me?
I’m an armature artist, true to the word, I have no real experience to speak off with any other art form then pencil drawings and in those I’m even not so great. Not to mention I hardly know any terms and or methods of working.
So how do you write an insightful comment, when all you really have to say is ‘I like this/ I don’t like this’ or ‘the colors are nice’.
I can’t tell them I would have done this, or I would have done that, since I most likely never did anything even remotely like it. That’s why commenting is hard for me. A normal comment I try and probably often fail at, so really how would I even get to so many words?
It’s not that I don’t want to, it’s just that I can’t.
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm an amateur myself. I don't know terms much either, I just try to give my opinion the best I can. As long as you can put something in the critique list that is 100 or more words, it works. I've seen critques who just use the underscore bar in critiques to get rid of the 100 word. Like this---


I____ ____like_ _ _ _ _ _ this_____------_____-----.

Not really a critique I know, but there are those like that. I do understand where you are coming from though. There is actually alot of people who can't do critiques or comments.
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Elyndra Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009   Traditional Artist
I think spacing like that is no better than no comment at all.
Commenting, especially those long ones, seems almost to be an art in itself and clearly not one I have a talent for. There are only so many ways of saying you like something or not =p especially when you know too little to go into detail.
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
I know what you mean about the spacing and dashes.
It is a talent to comment others' work. Not everyone has the talent, but it's fun to try at least *I think so ^_^ * I guess that's what socializing is all about I guess. I'm still kind of confused after I wrote this feature.
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Void-Hamlet-Herself Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconcritique-it:
:iconprojectcomment:

These two communities are positively trying to change how dA works and interacts, "from deviants, for deviants". Projects such as these, or News topics such as yours, make me feel absolutely positive that dA is the place to be.

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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm glad that you like dA. I'm trying to figure out how I can get more people to read this. I think they'd like it.
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Zombienvy Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009
^.^ I think it was mentioned to project comment and so the possibility is there for this to be posted there ^.^ as well as I think its lovely and I'm going to list it in my next journal in my hings you should get into on deviant art section ^.^
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thats cool. I posted a comment to them about the feature, so I hope they like it. Thank you very much. ^_^
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NatureByDesign Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2009   Photographer
Very well written, Piray. I am definitely going to have to take your advice with this and try out some more critiques myself. :D
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you! I hope you do! I just read your critique for that photo of the white bird. Wonderfully put! ^^ :)
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NatureByDesign Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2009   Photographer
You're welcome. And I'm so glad that you read that critique of mine and thought it was good. Usually I just don't have the right words to say, and for some reason the words were just flowing today. Maybe it's all of the caffeine. ;p
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
^^ it's all about thinking outside the box! :lmao:

Caffeine does do that to people! I can't drink much of it cause I go a little loopy! I used to work in a coffee shop which was the best job ever, mainly because I got to drink as much as I wanted, frappe there, mocha there, green tea there, cubano there. I miss that job... :D
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NatureByDesign Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2009   Photographer
That would've been quite interesting working in a coffee shop. I would totally love all of the free stuff from there too. And you'd never get tired. :D
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
It was so much fun. I worked there until the store closed down. It was awesome, free drinks, free food, free caffeine. I was a fan of the smoothies also. It was also a cyber cafe with 9 computers for customers to work on. So when you were bored you could play on the computer. ^^
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NatureByDesign Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009   Photographer
The more you go into detail, the better that job sounds. :D
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Pi-ray Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
haha! It does sound better doesn't it? :D I miss that job...
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